The baby will work fine on the show.
I don’t understand why all the KCers are so pressed about this. I see nothing wrong with the baby plot. Its there to help Klaus and Hayley both grow and mature and realize that they need to be better people if they are going to raise this little girl effectively. To be…
That’s disgusting. So KCers rather some random blonde to swoop and be Klaus’s redemption instead of his child and realizing that he’s worthy of being loved. Klaus doesn’t need to change who he is. He doesn’t need to become a “better” person, he needs to just realize that he’s worthy and worthy of being loved and that he’s capable of doing that and proving his father wrong. The baby is the only way he can see that. NOT CAROLINE! She was not and will never be his redemption. She used him and lowered his self-esteem even more. Please, stop.
Nobody is Klaus’ redemption but Klaus himself. It’s not about finding love that leads to redemption for Klaus, it’s about the path that he takes to find redemption in himself. His love for Caroline (aka. the “random blonde” that he’s been pursuing for two years) was what was drawing him out of the darkest places in his life…but she certainly isn’t his redemption. He has to find that on his own.
"Klaus doesn’t need to change who he is. He doesn’t need to become a "better’ person, he needs to just realize that he’s worthy of being loved and that he’s capable of doing that and proving his father wrong."
All I’m hearing in this comment is that he doesn’t need to change in order to get everything that he wants, but that’s not how it works. The only way that he can come to that realization is by changing the things that he can in order to show that he deserves it.
Caroline wasn’t and will never be someone to pep him up and soothe his man pain, so your self-esteem comment is irrelevant. She is the only one in history that has successfully made him look on the inside and see what the problem is. To search within himself to find the redemption that he needs.
Bottom line is that Klaus has to save himself and no baby, no she-wolf, his family, or even Caroline can do that for him.
The argument that the baby can someone redeem Klaus completely ignores the fact that he’s already been a father. He raised Marcel as his son. No amount of child-rearing is going to somehow make Klaus a better person. Just because this baby is an infant and of his blood doesn’t mean jack shit. If being a father was going to make Klaus a better person, it would have happened nearly 200 years ago.
And let’s not mince words, he does need to be a better person. He doesn’t need to be a brooding Angle-type character (we’ve already had that) but he needs to learn to think of someone else besides himself.
What Caroline did that no other character has been shown to do is call Klaus on his shit without demeaning him. He doesn’t need someone to validate his man pain and sooth his poor fragile ego. He needs people in his life who will tell him where he went wrong in no uncertain terms while still believing he can be better.
Besides the fact that the Baby plot rarely was mentioned in TO and later totally forgotten and only there as a sub-plot, I just think it’s ridiculous. How many natures loopholes do the producers have to create? It’s a fucking vampire show, a baby is fucking ridiculous. Hayley as a character is more than weak in many points and using the baby as a means ro redeem Klaus? Wtf. A baby doesn’t redeem someone. Both Hayley and Klaus are bad parents. That’s a fact. And having the baby won’t change that, if it doesn’t in real life, it doesn’t in a supernatural show. The show is supposed to be badass and more darker than TVD, but in fact it’s supernatural Teen Mom and I see the dark moments in TVD more firghtening than what happens on TO. A baby is just there. It doesn’t redeem. The people around him do. They make him realise who he really is and what there can be. Both Klaus and Hayley will drag each other down and not safe each other. Barely Chuck and Blair on Gossip Girl lasted but still Chuck could be redeemed due to everything he went through and the people around him who showed them that they cared. And please no, don’t compare them to Klayey (I don’t know why but I hear that often), because they are so different in many departments that it makes me sik people compare them to one of the most best couples ever.
So yes, the baby is a problem, because no one besides the Klayley shippers wants that thing of a plothole and think it’s a ridiculius try to save Klaus while there are 100 more plausible plotlines to do that.
What are you talking about? This is no. No one’s saying the baby is Klaus’s redemption. Klaus is his redemption and actually a lot of people are excited for the baby, so please stop. The baby as already has been said will be what Klaus needs to finally wake up and realize he needs to get act together. He’s going to parent and if he wants to be a good parents he needs to be change his behavior. It’s funny how you’re a Klaroline fan but you all have such little faith in Klaus. All of you. You all say he’ll be a bad father, and Caroline is the only one who can help him. It’s beyond pathetic.
Actually there are more than a lot people who see the baby as Klaus redemption, even the producers and even you just now. “The baby has already been said will be what Klaus needs to finally wake up and realize he needs to get his act together.” That’s the beginning of his redemption, ergo the child will redeem him. So yeah, there are hella a lot people who say that. And I still think the plot is riciulous because we are talking about Klaus. He is a monster. A man who takes drugs doesn’t suddenly think he should stop because he is going to be a father. That’s not how it works. While I get that people see the appeal in a child redeeming the father, it’s a total shitty plotline. Using a baby in a show for any reeason besides starting a family is like so overused and still not fitting for a supernatural show. And I’m sorry, but aren’t you a little prejudiced here? Where did I mention Caroline? I only said that the people around him should redeem in with their actions and what they say to him, so where did I one fucking second name Caroline? Yes, I particually meant her, but for the most part I meant Elijah, Rebekah, Marcel, even Camille and Hayley. Where did I mention no faith in Klaus? It’s the fact that this is not the right way to redeem Klaus. Trying to begin redeeming him with a child makes it seem like he doesn’t even value what other people say, what other people try to do for him, the extend on what they’re doing for him. The redeeming would be so much beautiful if it came through the people who love him, who tell him everyday and not a child who can’t even decipher wants wrong or right. Klaus, he has to redeem himself from the inside, yes, but with help from the people around him. It seems like so unlike Klaus to have a child changing him, something not even the people around him could do for thousand years. You shouldn’t like put a child there and suddenly Klaus redeems himself, like wtf, what’s with that lame storyline, I would rather see him change with the people around him telling him that deep down he isn’t that bad. And yes, I do like Klaroline, but aren’t you rude here saying I said Caroline is the only one who can help him and that I’m pathetic? Where did I say that? You obvioulsy reblogged it from my blog so you must like all other fans throw me on that mountain of other fans and just assume I think the same? That’s why people hate our Klaroline fandom, because people like you don’t even try to differeniate. Actually I hate canon Klaroline because Klaus on TO became a sad excuse on what he was on TVD and I don’t want my precious Caroline on such a horrified show, really. Yes, I think Caroline did a great amount of redeem on Klaus in TVD, and that’s a fact, so it can’t be denied, because it’s the fucking truth, but never did I assume she would be the only thing possible.
I just think the baby plot is ridiclous and a lot of fans do, and not only Klarolines, don’t assume again please, even TO fans do. It’s a supernatural show for teens, don’t drag a fucking innocent baby into that mess of a show just to make your pathetic excuse of Hayley Marshall likeable and pitable. Ah and again, since you probably will throw me on that mountain again, not I hate Hayley naturally, for various decent reasons and not because of Klaroline, just saying. Do what your want with your little Teen Mom² show, I watched both and don’t watch both anymore because JP keeps screwing up and I don’t want to support a show or shows that became so predictable and bad plotted that I am angry at every episode I watch instead of delighted. Besides the fact that JP is a bad excuse for a nice producers, she’s rude and doesn’t even care about her fans, so no, I rather stay with Pretty Little Liars and Marlene King, because she fucking respects her fans no matter how much hate she gets.
So take your fucking show and your prejudices opinions and come back to me when your decent enough to aknowledge that I can have my own opinion without being called out on things I didn’t even say.